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What do you think about near-death experiences?

Have you met or experienced anyone or do you in fact have a story about heaven to tell us?

 

In this TruthTalks audio podcast Dr Christopher Peppler talks about the fascinating ‘phenomenon’ of having a near-death experience and gives us his Biblically-based opinion on it. If YOU have a story to share, please do so on Facebook, or on www.truthistheword.com just under the post. We look forward to hearing from you.

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Stories about Heaven

 

From time to time, stories about Heaven appear on YouTube or in books.

Over just the last three months, friends have sent me several videos of people testifying to their out-of-body experiences of a life hereafter.

What are we to make of them? Are they biblical, do they contribute to what we know of spiritual things, or the character of God, or are they something else altogether? By something else I mean, are they self-serving flights of fancy or simply the products of brain chemicals and processes?

I have to say right up front that I have been less than convinced by the latest YouTube offerings, but I also confess that a book about a near-death experience (NDE) ranks as one of the books which have influenced me most. That book is Return from Tomorrow by George Ritchie and you can read what I had to say about it HERE.

Many years ago, George Richie’s book later prompted me to research the subject a little. The best of the several books I have read on NDE are Life after Life, a 1974 book by Dr Raymond Moody and a 2012 book, Proof of Heaven by Dr Eben Alexander. Both of these men were respected medical doctors, Moody a Psychiatrist and Alexander a Neurosurgeon.

A Typical Scientific Response

 

More recently, three academics produced a paper titled, ‘Towards a Neuro-scientific Explanation of Near-death Experiences’. They contend that ‘recent studies employing deep brain stimulation and neuroimaging have demonstrated that out-of-body experiences result from a deficient multisensory integration at the temporo-parietal junction.’ This is just an erudite way of saying, “It is all in the head Fred”.

Neither Doctors Richie, Moody, nor I, agree with this conclusion and I will have something to say about this later.

In the meantime, the three academics did save me some scratching around by listing common elements experienced in NDEs, and they are:

  • a panoramic life review
  • feelings of peace
  • seeing a dark tunnel, experiencing a bright light
  • an out-of-body experience
  • meeting spiritual beings
  • interacting with dead loved ones.

They also identified five stages of NDEs occurring in the following order: (1) feeling of peace and well-being, (2) separation from the physical body, (3) entering a region of darkness, (4) seeing a brilliant light, and finally, (5) going through the light and entering another realm. Of course, there must also be the sixth stage of returning to the body, otherwise, they would have no NDEs to evaluate.

From my reading and viewing, I could add a few more commonalities to the experience, but the list above is enough to solicit two pertinent observations. Firstly, this is a lot to attribute solely to brain processes and chemicals. Secondly, the accounts of Moody and Alexander do not support the limitations of five stages of an NDE. Their findings are not limited to this orderly process and, although they are both medical scientists, they firmly identify the NDE as a spiritual experience of a reality beyond the dimensions of space and time.

A View of NDEs

 

In essence, NDEs are similar in many ways to visionary experiences recorded in the bible andhistory, where visionaries and seers have claimed similar, if less intense, experiences while in meditative states. Even those who experiment with hallucinogenic drugs claim something akin to an NDE. I can understand this if, as it appears to me, the precondition for such an experience is a state of mind where the brain waves have moved down the frequency scale to the Theta band (4 to 7 pulses per second).

Those who report NDEs resulting from trauma or sickness would be functioning even lower down the scale in the Delta band (unconsciousness or coma). In these low-frequency brain states, the barrier between physical and spiritual appears to weaken or collapse and the person is able to experience a form of ultra-dimensional reality.

Now, to appreciate what I am about to explain, you will need some insight into an essentially Hebrew tripartite view of creation. In this scheme, what the ancients called the first ‘heaven’ is the physical world, the second heaven is the abode of spirits (I will refer to this as the spiritual realm), and the third heaven is where God and angels reside (I will call this the heavenly realm). In terms of this understanding, humans have a close interface with the spiritual realm, but can only enter the heavenly realm if invited and assisted from ‘above’. The Apostle Paul obliquely referenced this when he wrote that he ‘was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know…’ (2 Corinthians 12:2-4).

It seems to me that many NDE accounts contain references to the spiritual realm. For instance, leaving their bodies and seeing their physical forms down below them, interacting with spirit beings and people who had died, and so on. Those who claim to have entered the heavenly realm describe a place of light where they encountered angels and even God himself. They usually report that they were assisted to enter this realm by an angel or, in the case of Christians, by the Lord Jesus Christ. They often record that they enter the heavenly realm through a dark vortex, which they usually describe as a tunnel.

What those who have NDEs experience

 

Some describe tactile sensations, most report audible inputs of some non-physical form, but all report seeing things.

The strange thing is that almost all of them claim to see beautiful scenery, colourful spiritual creatures, animated flowers, communicating animals, and so on.

Even the biblical seers reported seeing things that resembled known physical objects. For instance, Ezekiel saw creatures with four faces each accompanied by an animated wheel, a valley full of dry bones that came to life, a bronze man with a linen cord and a measuring line, and a river flowing from the throne of God. The Apostle John recorded at the beginning of the Book of Revelation that he was ‘in the spirit’ on the Lord’s day when he heard, saw, and experienced the power of a wide range of extraordinary men, beasts, angels, and scenes.

Why did the prophets speak of things resembling earthly creatures and objects or strange combinations of these? Why do people who have experienced NDEs also speak of heaven as a material type of place full of familiar earthly things? Is Heaven a space within the physical creation that scientists have not yet been able to detect even with Hubble and James Webb? No, this cannot be, for consider what Paul wrote to the Ephesians: ‘we are not wrestling with flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the despotisms, against the powers, against [the master spirits who are] the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) sphere’. Ephesians 6:12 AMP

Consider also:

  • 1 Corinthians 2:9-10 ‘eye has not seen… no mind has conceived… but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit’
  • Ephesians 3:20 ‘more than all we ask or imagine’
  • 2 Corinthians 12:4 ‘heard things so astounding that they cannot be told’ NLT

I have quoted these texts out of their immediate context, but the principle holds good; as humans, we cannot comprehend, let alone express, the things that exist in heaven.

This is so because we are three-dimensional creatures living within the fourth dimension of time, whereas the spiritual and heavenly realms are multidimensional and timeless. We cannot describe what we cannot comprehend and have no words to portray.

So, for God to communicate effectively with us within the heavenly realm he would need to show us things from our frame of reference that catch something of the reality of the experience. Therefore, some NDEs include visions of green hills, gently moving flowers, and so on.

Rather than being literal objects, these convey the idea of the peace and tranquillity that exists in the heavenly realm. Some people report experiencing a place of fire, torment, or absolute darkness and these signify the hell of separation from God. If someone asks me if I believe we will see our loved ones and pets in Heaven, I respond with an honest “I do not know, but what I do know is that Heaven will be wonderful beyond our imagining”. My opinion is that we will interact with everyone who has died before us who was born again of the Spirit in Christ Jesus whilst on Earth. Much as I would like to believe the contrary, I do not believe there will be animals in Heaven because animals have bodies, and souls (minds), but they are not spiritually alive.

What should we make of NDE accounts?

 

I mentioned earlier that some stories of Heaven are probably made up or greatly embellished, and we should give no heed to them. We should also be wary of details or insinuations in NDE accounts that do not line up with biblical revelation. For instance, purported messages or experiences of ‘salvation’ contrary to a salvation by faith in and through the Lord Jesus Christ. I am also very sceptical of accounts that include a call to buy a book, subscribe to a blog, or something else related to self-gain.

On the positive side, I am always encouraged when I read NDEs that result in the person experiencing a radical life change leading to a lifestyle of intimacy, trust and obedience to, in, and with Jesus Christ. I treat NDEs the same way as I regard modern words of prophecy; I test them against the biblical revelation of the Lord Jesus, discard the parts that miss the mark, and treasure the rest.

If anyone reading this article has had an NDE then I would love you to comment so that we can learn from each other and be encouraged in our lives as Jesus Followers.

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The Man in the Middle: The Real Focus of Easter

Easter weekend is upon us again. I don’t much like the term ‘Easter’, but so many people refer to Passover Weekend by that name that I will let it stand … for now.

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The Sunday Service

 

See the scene played out at countless Easter Sunday services throughout the world. The place is packed with three types of attendees. There are the:

  1. Committed followers of Jesus,
  2. Christmas-and Easter-attendance-only religious folks,
  3. Reluctant agnostic relatives.

Some services are preceded by a hushed time of religious respect, but most are abuzz with happy and vocal people. The place is full of, “He has risen” with the response “He has risen indeed” accompanied by a brotherly hug, or the simple “Happy Easter” and a brisk handshake. There are happy hymns or clapping-accompanied spiritual songs, and then the preacher takes centre stage. Likely as not, he (or she) speaks about how Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead so that we might have life … or variations on that theme. Now my question is, how do the three types of attendees respond to this sort of message?

Different Responses to the Easter Message

 

The, hopefully, largest, group will respond with nods, beaming faces, and silent or proclaimed “Amens”. The Christmas and Easter brigade will most likely respond with self-satisfied semi-smiles manifesting a comfortable and pious “I don’t really care because I am a good religious person” attitude. The third group, the reluctant relatives, either doesn’t care or silently disagrees with the ‘gospel’ message. Members of both of the last two groups do not believe that they are sinners (Can’t even define true sin), doubt or repudiate the reliability of scripture, and don’t care much anyway.

So, what should the preacher be telling them that will cause them to comprehend and be open to accepting? Closer to the bone, what can you be saying to them when you, a believer, sit at lunch with them afterwards?

A Funny Story with a Powerful Message.

 

A dear friend of mine sent me a dated video clip of a man telling the following story:

One of the two thieves crucified to the left and right of Jesus arrives at the Pearly Gates. The angel on duty asks him why he should let him into heaven. The man replies that he really doesn’t know why. He had not read the scriptures, nor had he mixed with ‘church’ folk in Jerusalem. He hadn’t been baptised and he wasn’t even Jewish, so he just stared blankly at the angel. This flummoxed the angel who called for his supervisor. An important-looking angel arrived and asked the man: “Are you not clear on the doctrine of justification by faith?”. The man gave him the same confused look and so the Boss-angel said, “So why should I let you in?” And the man responded “I don’t know, but the man on the middle cross said I should come!

Jesus – It’s All About Jesus

 

OK, so it’s a mildly funny story (especially in the way the man in the video clip told it) but it conveys a profound truth – It is all about Jesus. It is not about church attendance, observance of sacraments, family affiliation, or correct doctrine – its about Jesus!

The Easter message is, or at least should be, about Jesus. Not the horror of the cross, nor the wonder of the empty tomb, but about the man who hung on the cross and who walked out of the open tomb – Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

What Paul Has to Say

 

In 1 Corinthians 1:18 – 2:5 the Apostle Paul develops some of the things I have been pointing to so far in this article. Here are parts of three verses cobbled together for effect:

‘For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing … Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles … ’

In my example of the Easter Sunday service, Paul’s Jews would equate to the Christmas and Easter religious people and the Gentiles to the reluctant agnostic relatives. To religiously half-asleep people, nothing short of a palpable miracle will wake them up. To the agnostics the ‘Jesus died for our sins because the bible tells us so’ is foolish naivety bordering on delusion. They need persuasion that relies on more than what to them is an ancient set of stories. I understand both states of unbelief because before I was born again of the Spirit at the age of thirty I was an agnostic with a religious family background.

Well, here is the thing; both the wanted miracle and the persuasively compelling wisdom is found only in … Jesus.

Consider how Paul counters the two statements that I have quoted above. He writes in 1 Cor 1:18 ‘For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God’, andWhen I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified’ (1 Cor 2:1-2). And again, ‘My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power (1 Cor 2:4-5).

Jesus followers will understand the profound doctrines of Easter, but the religious and the agnostic need the simple truth of Jesus Christ accompanied by the miraculously transforming power of Holy Spirit.

Three Questions to Ask

 

Here are some questions to ask as part of either a sermon or a one-on-one discussion about the Easter message:

The first question is: “Do you believe that Jesus was a real historical figure who lived in Palestine who taught and performed wonderful deeds?” The initial response might be scepticism concerning both his existence and his miracles. However, there is quite a bit of non-biblical evidence to offer. For instance, here are just some of the things early historical figures said about Jesus:

Cornelius Tacitus (AD 109) makes the following reference to Christians and to Jesus: “Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius …”

Lucian of Samosta (second century satirist) wrote scornfully of Christians in the following terms: “The Christians, you know, worship a man who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account …”

Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan in AD 112 that the Christians “… were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a god …”

Celsus (AD 150) wrote, “First, however, I must deal with the matter of Jesus, the so-called saviour, who not long ago taught new doctrines and was thought to be a son of God …”

Mara Bar-Serapion, a Syrian philosopher, wrote to his son in AD 70 and referred to the ‘wise King’ of the Jews whom they put to death.

Josephus, the Jewish historian for the Romans, referred to Jesus in his Jewish Antiquities (AD 93): ‘Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ, and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians so named from him are not extinct at this day.’

So, as you can see, there is quite a bit of non-biblical confirmation that Jesus existed and was extraordinary in many ways and these historical facts can be helpful for you to draw on when speaking to folk who dont accept the authority of the bible.

The second and follow-up question to ask is: “Do you believe that the bible is a trustworthy record of what Jesus said and did?” Again, there may be push-back and comments about the bible’s mythical nature. However, once again, there are simple rejoinders to this. For instance:

Four different people wrote four Gospels, each corroborating, amplifying each other and giving differing perspectives. In a court of law, the testimony of four witnesses would be overwhelmingly compelling especially if there are minor discrepancies and perceived contradictions which are a mark of authentic personal witness. In addition, there is the recorded witness of Paul, Peter, and James. There is also compelling evidence that secular history records many martyrdoms of people who believed in the biblical Jesus and put their very lives on the line for this belief.

Third question: “What then does the bible record Jesus as saying about himself?”

Well, he said:

  • “I and the Father are one.” Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”. “We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” (John 10:30-33)
  • ‘Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.” (John 14:8-9)
  • I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.’ (John 8:58-59) Lest some miss the point of the last quote above, the ascription “I AM’ was an ancient Jewish divine ascription.

The most personally relatable of the above quotes is Jesus’ response to Philip and this would be a good example to tell in full to a congregation or in a one-on-one conversation –  John 14:8-11

So, despite what critics claim, Jesus did declare himself to be God incarnate.

Logical Conclusions

 

So, there is compelling evidence that Jesus Christ lived, ministered, taught and died as reliably recorded in the bible, and that he declared himself to be God himself on Earth. To back up his claims Jesus healed the sick, cast out demons, created substance from nothing (wine, bread, and new eyes), and even raised the dead. This is why he said, “Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.” (John 14:11)

The logical observation to make is: “So, surely then we must believe what Jesus, God incarnate, said about things like salvation, eternity, commitment, love, faith, hope, and so on.” Well here are just some of the things he said about salvation:

  • I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.” (John 10:9)
  • My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:27-28)
  • ‘Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?” (John 11:25-26)
  • ‘Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”.  (John 14:6-7)

Once again, the most personally applicable account in that of John 3:1-21 where Jesus explains to Nicodemus that he must be Born Again if he is to be saved.

Conclusion

 

I realise that I have not explained terms like Salvation, Rebirth and so on, but I have written extensively on this HERE. The main point of this article is not to teach doctrine, but to point out that:

  • The focus of Easter is the ‘man on the middle cross’ and his invitation to all who will listen, and
  • The most effective and compellingly simple way of applying the Easter message to both religious people and agnostics is to explain who Jesus really is, that the bible is reliable, and that what it records of what Jesus said and did is of the uttermost significance and importance.

However, there is one more thing I must point out before I end this article: The anointing of the Holy Spirit in the whole process of explaining and interacting is VITAL! It is the Holy Spirit who breathes life into our words and backs them up with convicting clarity and power.

This is why Paul wrote, “My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.”

Remember, the man in the middle is the real focus of Easter.

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TruthTalks: Revival and Revolution

Last week we read about Revival and Revolution HERE.

 

This week we get to hear Dr Christopher Peppler talking us through it in this TruthTalks podcast.

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Revival and Revolution

 

The Asbury University revival was much in the news a while ago and Christians from all over the world tracked it hopefully.

Was it the start of something bigger and more far-spread? “Oh Lord Jesus, let it be so!”.

But, now the Asbury awakening has receded like a wave on the shore and it seems that we may have to wait a little longer for a great move of God.

In Christian circles, if we speak of both Rivival and Revolution in the same sentence, we usually refer to Revival OR Revolution rather than Revival AND Revolution. What we imply by this is that only a Holy Spirit revival will prevent our nations from fragmenting into revolution. Put another way, we see revival as the antidote to rapidly deteriorating conditions in our world. However, history does not fully support this idea.

Before going any further, I must mention that in this article I use the word ‘revolution’ in its broader sense of, ‘a radical and pervasive change in society often accompanied by violence.’

The greatest revivals have had a profound influence on their host nations, and even the world.

They brought about change and in at least one case even moved the nation away from a devastating revolution. Almost all were messy, controversial, polarising, and relatively short-term phenomena, albeit with long-term residual influence. Moreover, a historic observation is that revivals usually occur in parallel to ongoing conditions of revolution.

I live in a nation where the ruling party calls itself a revolutionary movement, and true to its self-description, it has brought us to a state of national ‘revolution’.

The non-Christian majority clamours for change yet ironically employs the strategies of revolution as an antidote to revolution. On the other hand, the Christian minority prays and hopes for revival to save our land. However,  is this a valid hope or are we more likely to have both revival and revolution occurring simultaneously in our near future?

The greatest revival/awakening recorded in the bible is what we call The Day of Pentecost Outpouring.

Initially, only about 120 were affected and within a few days a few thousand more. But, from then on the revival grew and spread until two millennia later there is hardly a nation on earth that has not been affected by it.

Sometimes it has burned bright and hot, but these have been lightning flashes followed by long periods characterised by both growth and decline. In our generation, the life of the Holy Spirit indwells the hearts of probably no more than a tenth of the world’s population although over 30% describe themselves as ‘Christian’. The relatively few followers of Jesus live all over the globe and many are in countries where armed conflict rages, corruption and degradation rule, or hunger and sickness constitute their own form of deadly revolution.

So, what should we, you and I, expect of the darkening revolutionary future storming towards us?

A Biblical Testimony

 

The Book of Revelation presents a graphic portrayal of the ages from the first to the second coming of the Lord Jesus. We can find evidence of the forces it describes in every age over the last 2,000 years, but it also gives us insight into the kind of world in which we now live.

I have written a book explaining the structure and general trends, principles, and powers presented in the book of Revelation and you can find it HERE. For this article, I will confine myself to just Chapter 11 of Revelation and will only give some of the detail that I present in my book, so if you would like to learn more, go ahead and get the Kindle or paperback book.

Revelation 11:1-12 reads: ‘I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”  They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”  If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.  But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.”’

Now do not let the extreme language and imagery throw you, but rather focus on the following key aspects drawn from the text:

 

  1. The temple represents the church, which, like the temple of old, contains an ‘outer court’ of nominal professing Christians and a Holy Place of genuine followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. The imagery is from Ezekiel Chapters 40 to 44, where the following verses are particularly pertinent, “Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider the plan, and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple – its arrangement, its exits and entrances – its whole design and all its regulations and laws. Write these down before them so that they may be faithful to its design and follow all its regulations”. (Ezekiel 43:10-11) It appears that John was equating the church with Ezekiel’s temple. Only priests were allowed to enter the Holy Place, and John was told to ignore the outer court where the ‘gentiles’ were. In Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 John refers to Christians as ‘priests’, and so it seems that in the allusion to the temple he is distinguishing between true believers and nominal Christians; between those who worship God in spirit and in truth and those who just claim to do so.
  2. The world, including apostate Christendom, will ‘trample’ on the true church for a period specified as 42 months or 1 260 days. The prophetic month consisted of 30 days and so 1 260 days exactly equals 42 months. The same symbolic period appears in Revelation 12:14 as ‘time, times, and half a time’ (in other words, 3½ years). We should not take the numbers in Revelation literally, so the question concerns what this period symbolises. In Revelation 11, the period relates to the ministry of the ‘two witnesses’, who have the power to ‘shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying’. The allusion is to the prophet Elijah, who proclaimed a three-and-a-half-year drought in Israel. Jesus spoke of this when he compared the people of his time with those in ancient Israel. He said, “I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah’s time, when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a severe famine throughout the land” (Luke 4:25) So, the two witnesses represent an Elijah-like ministry. However, John also describes them as having the power to ‘turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague…’ This is a reference to Moses. He displayed the mighty power of God in liberating his people from Egypt. Elijah symbolises the prophetic ministry of the church in judging apostate Christendom, and Moses is a symbol of the apostolic ministry of the church in protecting the true believers. Revelation 12:14 picks up on this second function, where it describes God taking the church into the desert ‘where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.’ So, apostate Christians equate to those in the outer court of the temple, and true Christians to those in the inner court.
  3. There is a strong correlation between Jesus’ ministry and that of the church. Jesus ministered for 42 months during which he displayed mighty signs and wonders, judged the apostate ‘church’ of his day, and made a way of salvation for all who would follow him. At the end of that period, Jesus was put to death, yet rose again. Towards the end of the period of end-time Elijah and Moses-like ministry, the church will be ‘put to death’, yet it too shall rise! Revelation 11:7-11 reinforces this correlation. Verse 12 describes the ascension of the church into heaven after its period of powerful ministry amid persecution.

The Implications of Revival

 

So, mighty revival comes first to the church and then to society.

The first effect of revival is that it serves to judge the condition of the church and to separate the true from the false. True believers experience and participate in the empowering influence of the Holy Spirit and false believers, and unbelievers, criticise them and seek to persecute them.

 

We long for revival yet we often fail to grasp that revival has an enormously disruptive effect on the church. Even among true believers, as opposed to nominal religious Christians, the powerful influence of the Holy Spirit tests, refines, and separates the ‘flesh’ from the ‘spirit’. For this reason, real revivals are messy as well as painful. Messy because immature believers let their emotions get the better of them and become extremely disruptive and painful because nominal Christians criticise, sanction, and make life tough for all in the revival, both the messy ravers and the more balanced disciples.

Secondly, true revival burns bright for just a short period of time during which it has a profound influence on the church and society generally.

 

When it dies down and the smoke of its fire clears, then all can see a transformed church and a radically impacted society. This church continues the work of influencing society with truth and light. Over time, this can give rise to transformed governments, businesses, families, and so on.

A third point to note is that revival happens within the context of revolution; it is revival AND revolution.

 

It does not replace revolution but rather mitigates and redirects it in key ways. Although modern versions translate Isaiah 59:19 differently, the New King James bible still has ‘When the enemy comes in like a flood, The Spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard against him’. I like this because it describes a divine principle we see repeated throughout history. The flood is ‘revolution’ and the raised up standard is ‘revival’.

Perhaps, one final thing to note is that the revival of Revelation 11 portrays revival in general, but more specifically, the last and greatest revival of history as we know it.

Are we living in ‘the end times’ when the revival we desire will be the final mighty blast of the trumpet of God? I suspect so, but who can know other than God himself?

A Last Thought on this Matter

 

Taking into account all that I have written here, do I still want to witness and participate in a mighty Holy Spirit revival? Yes, I do.

In general, the church is in desperate need of shaking up and purifying and only a God-given revival can do that adequately.

My country might not pull back from the brink of the failed-state abyss without the restraint and reformation that revival would bring. Do I want revival even if it is the last and most radical of all? Yes, because if it ushers in the second coming of the Lord Jesus then how can I not pray for it to come?

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God’s people. Amen. (Revelation 22:20-21)

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About Me

My name is Christopher Peppler and I was born in Cape Town, South Africa in 1947. While working in the financial sector I achieved a number of business qualifications from the Institute of Bankers, Damelin Management School, and The University of the Witwatersrand Business School. After over 20 years as a banker, I followed God’s calling and joined the ministry full time. After becoming a pastor of what is now a quite considerable church, I  earned an undergraduate theological qualification from the Baptist Theological College of Southern Africa and post-graduate degrees from two United States institutions. I was also awarded the Doctor of Theology in Systematic Theology from the University of Zululand in 2000.

Four years before that I established the South African Theological Seminary (SATS), which today is represented in over 70 countries and has more than 2 500 active students enrolled with it. I presently play an role supervising Masters and Doctoral students.

I am a passionate champion of the Christocentric or Christ-centred Principle, an approach to biblical interpretation and theological construction that emphasises the centrality of Jesus

I have been happily married to Patricia since the age of 20, have two children, Lance and Karen, a daughter-in-law Tracey, and granddaughters Jessica and Kirsten. I have now retired from both church and seminary leadership and devote my time to writing, discipling, and the classical guitar.

If you would like to read my testimony to Jesus then click HERE.